Yes. The role of revision in our work is very time consuming. These books are 300 words long. You only have 300 words. It makes a telegram seem like an essay. You have to be — it’s a poem is what it is. It’s absolutely condensed and so how many versions do you think you went through with the new book?
Oh, you mean the writing?
Yeah, 20?
Oh, easily.
How many had been? How many dummies?
And different -
Five, six, seven and then sketches and then after you finish the sketches you start painting and everything changes from drawing to fully formed paintings and you revise again and then you do some of the paintings over. A year and a half.
And for me, the revisions are very important and I love revisions. I have more fun with revising than anything else I think. I like to take a story or sometimes my stories are longer than 300 words, but -
That’s true. There have been a few.
The ones that we’ve done together are usually 300 words, 350 words, but I like to see all the different ways that I can take a story, particularly the ending. It’s very important to me that it has a strong beginning and the middle just keeps — very exciting and then the end is powerful so I’ll maybe write 15 different endings before I’m finished.